C. Discussion 5

PROMPT: Discuss the three carpe diem poems by Donne, Herrick, and Marvell: Donne’s “The Flea,” Herrick’s “To the Virgins, to Make Much of Time,” and Marvell’s “To His Coy Mistress.”  All use different strategies to convince their lovers to seize the day and live it up, preferably by yielding their virtue.  Remember that this is a poetic theme dating back to the Romans, and poets simultaneously had fun with it while introducing sometimes serious overtones.  I invite you to strike a similarly jocular yet earnest tone.

 You must first post your response of at least 300 words to the prompt .

THE FLEA.

 by John Donne

 MARK but this flea, and mark in this,

 How little that which thou deniest me is;

 It suck’d me first, and now sucks thee,

 And in this flea our two bloods mingled be.

 Thou know’st that this cannot be said

 A sin, nor shame, nor loss of maidenhead;

     Yet this enjoys before it woo,

     And pamper’d swells with one blood made of two;

     And this, alas!  is more than we would do.

 O stay, three lives in one flea spare,

 Where we almost, yea, more than married are.

 This flea is you and I, and this

 Our marriage bed, and marriage temple is.

 Though parents grudge, and you, we’re met,

 And cloister’d in these living walls of jet.

     Though use make you apt to kill me,

     Let not to that self-murder added be,

     And sacrilege, three sins in killing three.

 Cruel and sudden, hast thou since

 Purpled thy nail in blood of innocence?

 Wherein could this flea guilty be,

 Except in that drop which it suck’d from thee?

 Yet thou triumph’st, and say’st that thou

 Find’st not thyself nor me the weaker now.

 ‘Tis true;  then learn how false fears be;

 Just so much honor, when thou yield’st to me,

 Will waste, as this flea’s death took life from thee.

TO THE VIRGINS, TO MAKE MUCH OF TIME.

 by Robert Herrick

 GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,

     Old time is still a-flying:

 And this same flower that smiles to-day

     To-morrow will be dying.

 The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,

     The higher he’s a-getting,

 The sooner will his race be run,

     And nearer he’s to setting.

 That age is best which is the first,

     When youth and blood are warmer;

 But being spent, the worse, and worst

     Times still succeed the former.

 Then be not coy, but use your time,

     And while ye may go marry:

 For having lost but once your prime

     You may for ever tarry.

To his Coy Mistress

 by Andrew Marvell

 Had we but world enough, and time,

 This coyness, lady, were no crime.

 We would sit down and think which way

 To walk, and pass our long love’s day;

 Thou by the Indian Ganges’ side

 Shouldst rubies find;  I by the tide

 Of Humber would complain.  I would

 Love you ten years before the Flood;

 And you should, if you please, refuse

 Till the conversion of the Jews.

 My vegetable love should grow

 Vaster than empires, and more slow.

 An hundred years should go to praise

 Thine eyes, and on thy forehead gaze;

 Two hundred to adore each breast,

 But thirty thousand to the rest;

 An age at least to every part,

 And the last age should show your heart.

 For, lady, you deserve this state,

 Nor would I love at lower rate.

         But at my back I always hear

 Time’s winged chariot hurrying near;

 And yonder all before us lie

 Deserts of vast eternity.

 Thy beauty shall no more be found,

 Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound

 My echoing song;  then worms shall try

 That long preserv’d virginity,

 And your quaint honor turn to dust,

 And into ashes all my lust.

 The grave’s a fine and private place,

 But none I think do there embrace.

         Now therefore, while the youthful hue

 Sits on thy skin like morning dew,

 And while thy willing soul perspire

 At every pore with instant fires,

 Now let us sport us while we may;

 And now, like am’rous birds of prey,

 Rather at once our time devour,

 Than languish in his slow-chapp’d power of him.

 Let us roll all our strength, and all

 Our sweetness, up into one ball;

 And tear our pleasures with rough strife

 Thorough the iron gates of life.

 Thus, though we cannot make our sun

 Stand still, yet we will make him run.